There is no thinking at all. If there is no thinking, there is no thinker. If there is no thinker, there are no thoughts, even. So you can’t say that there are only thoughts if there is no thinker. The thoughts are not from here, they are coming from outside. The translation of a sensory perception within the framework of your experiencing structure is thought.

The Natural State, Part IV

Portrait of Uppaluri Gopala Krishnamurti

Uppaluri Gopala Krishnamurti

Philosopher
July 9, 1918 – March 22, 2007

Uppaluri Gopala Krishnamurti, known as U. G. Krishnamurti, was an Indian philosopher who questioned enlightenment. Although many considered him an “enlightened” person, Krishnamurti often referred to his state of being as the “natural state.” He claimed that the demand for enlightenment was the only thing standing in the way of enlightenment itself, if enlightenment existed at all.

He rejected the very basis of thought and in doing so negated all systems of thought and knowledge. Hence he explained his assertions were experiential and not speculative – “Tell them that there is nothing to understand.”

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The Mystique of Enlightenment

Here is perhaps the most straightforward, no-nonsense book yet written about that truth which many ’spiritual seekers’ are seeking - what most gurus call ’enlightenment’, and what U.G. Krishnamurti calls the ’natural state’. U.G. maintains, in this selection from his conversations, that ’so-called enlightenment’ is a purely biological phenomenon, that only when we are completely free of culture, conditioning, religious thinking and intellect, can the body, with its own ’extraordinary intelligence’, free the human being to be in the natural state. U.G. has been living in this state since the experience he calls the "calamity" happened to him in Switzerland on his 49th birthday. He has since become widely known, both in Europe and in India, as one who speaks with authority on the subject. U.G.’s ’talks’ are informal and take place wherever he happens to be. He is no relation to J. Krishnamurti, the famous spiritual leader, whose teachings he once admired, and now considers ’archaic hogwash’. He is probably the most controversial of all the experts in such matters, gurus or non-gurus. He has been called ’outrageous’, ’infuriating,’ and a ’prophet of anti-wisdom’.

The Natural State, Part IV

U.G. Krishnamurti emphatically denies the existence of self, spirit or mind, asserting that only the physical body and natural world exist. He states all human experience and understanding derives from acquired knowledge, not direct perception, and attempts to free oneself through spiritual or intellectual means are futile, as thought itself is a product of the conditioned mechanism. Krishnamurti advocates leaving the body’s natural functioning alone, without interference from the conceptualizing mind.

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Alan Watts

Beyond Theology

Alan Watts examines the theme that our normal sense of the person as a lonely island of consciousness is a dramatic illusion based on theological imagery. In a global context, the meaning of this imagery inevitably changes, yet without losing its unique values.